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JohnMalcolm1970 said 5 months ago 11/4/2009 6:22:46 PM EDT

I think I've asked this before.... it seems a shame that there's not an illo mentoring programme to match the FX/photoshop/photo-manipulation one.

I'm not up for administering such a thing... but... are there any takers?

I'd be happy to mentor someone with three stipulations: they like illustrating, they have a pressure sensitive tablet (preferably Wacom), and access to Photoshop AND/OR Painter.

Pac0daTac0 said 5 months ago 11/4/2009 6:34:31 PM EDT

I started a forum thread about the same exact thing a few months ago. It would be great to get something similar to the other mentor programs up and running.

http://illo.worth1000.com/discussions/47066/illustration-mentor-program

Qofcheez said 5 months ago 11/4/2009 6:40:25 PM EDT

I think beginner's aren't likely to have a wacom. It's something that people tend to get later.

That would be good for let's say an intermediate, a beginner likely needs tips on basic things like masking, painting in shadows and highlights. ie. how to improve depth. Texture is the next step.

Illustration has a wide range of techniques that can be used. And styles. A mentoring program would have to focus on general things that can apply to a person's individual style.

MissChief said 5 months ago 11/4/2009 6:49:15 PM EDT

And we haven't had an Art Class thread since May. :(

Tygerson said 5 months ago 11/4/2009 7:06:55 PM EDT

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You'd be happy to mentor someone? Pick me please! Pick meeeeee!!!!! I love your work--especially since it's full of fantasy/sci-fi! :)

I'm a beginner at illo (in my second contest--it will show up when voting's over) and have photoshop. I don't have a pressure sensitive tablet (just a non pressure sensitive one to draw long hair), but I'll figure out how to compensate.

Global CouncilArena Admin loremipsum said 5 months ago 11/4/2009 7:27:32 PM EDT

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AC is a way to have a general community mentorship.

http://illustration.worth1000.com/faq
Scroll down to "Starting a Class."

We've given the power to the users. In fact, this very forum is the old Art Class forum. Use it how you'd like within the guidelines linked and have fun and share. The Admins can and will run AC threads, but we'd like to see the participation levels higher before we take it on as a regular duty (hence giving you all the ability to have control of it). It sort of dwindled as things do from time to time around here.

Remember, AC threads can evolve into your own contests as well (IRs) as was the intent. That would be the ideal: to see someone come up with a technique or style they want to share/learn, see others try it out and give each other tips, and then have it develop into a friendly contest to test out those new approaches.

As far as private mentoring, no we haven't had a large scale organized illo system. Partly because of the "large" part. Interest has usually been within a small enough group folks have been able to pair off on their own without need for external control. If there is enough interest, of course we'd be willing to discuss things further as a team.

One thing I love about our illo team is I haven't seen anyone reject helping. Some of us get inboxes with questions and we advise best we can from idea to submit--and it's a joy to be a part of. And I know if I ask so-and-so for help they're always available. This has been the usual "party line" answer to illo mentoring questions. but, again, if you guys can generate enough interest and there is someone we all trust to handle the responsibility, let us know.

Tygerson said 5 months ago 11/4/2009 8:04:33 PM EDT

loremipsum said
One thing I love about our illo team is I haven't seen anyone reject helping. Some of us get inboxes with questions and we advise best we can from idea to submit--and it's a joy to be a part of.

Speaking of--thank you for helping me! I wasn't really sure who to have look at my entry!

And those AC/mini-tut threads are great to peruse. That bit you wrote on creating texture by making and smudging noise has been especially useful! :) Never would have figured that out on my own.

Qofcheez said 5 months ago 11/4/2009 9:54:38 PM EDT

I would to see Lorem's any other previous thread tutorials developed into something that can be put in the tutorial section (as the current links aren't working).

I learned ALOT from Lorem's stuff

JohnMalcolm1970 said 5 months ago 11/5/2009 2:03:02 AM EDT

I'd completely forgot about the AC thing. I suppose that, and the fact that styles vary so differently, and because Illo contests are more spread out than FX, means that a mentorship thing might not work the same ways as FX does.

I'll have a think about doing something for the AC forum... and my inbox is always open anyway.

Tygerson said 5 months ago 11/5/2009 9:23:12 AM EDT

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If you are taking requests/need ideas, I'd love to see tips on making glass like the bottle and globe here: http://illo.worth1000.com/entries/542845/wanderer

carmsie said 5 months ago 11/5/2009 2:33:29 PM EDT

Or maybe some basic stuff? like anatomy and... lightning and so on... I don't think we've had those in the AC classes yet?

JohnMalcolm1970 said 5 months ago 11/5/2009 2:48:14 PM EDT

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I can't really go into much detail on that at the moment, as I'm popping out. Perhaps the best way would be for me to experiment again with recording something like this with video.

All I've got at the moment is the bottle area in stages at close to full working size (the last bottle image is pixel for pixel the size I worked on it). It's a big file BTW.

Bottle Stages

Anything else I think of, I'll put it in an appropriate thread.

Tygerson said 5 months ago 11/5/2009 4:27:26 PM EDT

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Yay!

Global CouncilArena Admin nikneven said 5 months ago 11/5/2009 4:30:04 PM EDT

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Anyone can start an art class. Don't think of it as a Teacher and Students. Think of it as a bunch of people sitting around and talking art.

You can start one about anatomy and just have it be about what you'd like to learn, not what you have to teach.

EyEars said 5 months ago 11/5/2009 6:21:39 PM EDT

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I had the pleasure of colouring that image.
Do you draw directly on the wacom or scan the concept drawing?
I still have problems getting enough variety in line even with pressure sensitive stylus.

JohnMalcolm1970 said 5 months ago 11/5/2009 7:51:54 PM EDT

EyEars said
I had the pleasure of colouring that image.
Do you draw directly on the wacom or scan the concept drawing?
I still have problems getting enough variety in line even with pressure sensitive stylus.



Thanks

That image was all done on a Wacom Intuos.... mainly in Painter. It's certainly a case of practice... and making sure the pressure setting are correct though. Set up correctly it should be no different to drawing with the pencil of your choice on paper.